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Hello,sirs I have a question or 2 about the JFK debacle in Nov of 1963...
1.What group/faction/organization benefited the most from JFK's death?
2.Just what if,what if the assasination was botched that day...can you speculate
what the ramifactions could have been?
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Clint Murcheson and the Texas oil barons profitted. LBJ's stock interest in Bell Helicopter set up a sounder financial stake for future elections. Within four years we had Nixon in the White House (a Repubicam), then Gerald Ford (R.), James Carter ( bright, career Navy Sub Commander - conscientious but not too challenging of the politiboto), then the coup d`tat with Reagan ( "Gotta kill him. Gotta kill him.") taking over, then GHWB runs and is suspiciously beaten by the ..... (drumroll please) Wold Willie Jefferson????
Qui bono? Wasn't the Mob. Ongoing RICO trials have cooled some heels while the Arab fanatics cripple this country in ways the wiseguys could've stopped. Good question whose records are to be made public in around 2039. Ah, the expediency, honesty and effectiveness of government. By then our grandkids possibly won't car. Criminal answers are hard to come by and I do not believe you can prosecute a corpse. Now for a song:: "When you'resmiling. When you're smiling. The whoe world smiles with you."
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Just go to the Fletcher Prouty site and also the Prouty Spartacus site...it's all there. CIA Colonel Edward Lansdale carried out the operation to kill JFK on orders from the 'back-room Government' (Prescott Bush/David Rockefeller) they were going to lose $$ Billions as JFK refused to invade Cuba (Rockefeller was the largest landowner in pre-Castro Cuba) plus JFK was going to withdraw U.S. troops from Vietnam (Rockefeller and Bush had sweetheart deals to provide U.S. Military with oil/gas and Rockie owns 50% of the Armaments Industry...(nice to be back home...as I go to work on Monday I'll be unable to check the site on a daily basis....p.s. Little Al-my Parole expired. This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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I hear ya On vietnam...But they never did go to Cuba anyway. This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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Little Al-my Parole expired. -- Gotcha, Magoo. So are you going to do some traveling or something now that you don't have restrictions? This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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the assassination botched? Oswald's rifle misfired? he shot a tree or something? Kennedy would have lived. That is the only difference. The simple but seemingly unacceptable answer is that there was no conspiracy beyond Lee harvey oswald's mind. This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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I agree jilly, but facts are stubborn things that dont go away. Each "fact" of the consipracy theorists look sound untl you compare them against Warren commission evidence. I really havent seen any fact that stands scrutiny.
I can also understand the kudos of saying, inferring or claiming to have been involved in a plot to kill the most powerful man in the world.
Like the 60s where there was general paraanoia about communism, there is a "terrorist" paranoia now, and conspiracy theories grow on this rich mulch
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Fatcs On this subject...are highly subjective. The Warren commission "Fatcs" are seen by many brilliant people as "laughable" and Impossible...for every "fact" you lay claim to..I'll find someone to refute it, and I suppose the reverse is true...I recall you trying to explain the Magic bullet once, as possible...when it's simply not..But I wont convince you and you wont convince me. Soemtimes if it walks like a duck... This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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Isn't it strangely coincidental that Joe Valachi had just been all over the TV talking Capos, decinas, La Cosa Nostra...and of course, his specialty, heroin.
Jack Ruby, Chicago LCN ties, main source of income, heroin.
Lucien Sarti, Corsican super gangster, who is believed by some, including Buscetta, of being the trigger man...Buscetta and Sartis raison d'etre? Heroin.
Santo Trafficante and Carlos Marcello..."Cut off the head....", Cuba, deal with CIA in Bay of Pigs...strange. Oh, Trafficante and Marcello were also fond of the babania...
This is just the obsesive thinking of a recently detoxed junky...but add it all up...ya gotta admit, right? This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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Pattyboy...just remember that The Bay of Pigs Commander, General Cabel, got fired by Kennedy and poblicly humiliated for the fiasco...plus over 100 CIA operatives including Frank sturgis and Howard Hunt got thrown in cuban jails and head of CIA, Dulles also got fired. what happens next ? JFK visits Dallas where General Cabel's brother happens to be the Mayor !!!!! At 10:00pm the night before JFK's motorcade, Mayor Cabel changes JFK's route so that it will have to go by the Grassy Knoll, Book Depository etc. AT HALF THE SPEED...after JFK is shot, 3 'suspicious tramps' are briefly arrested behind the fence; they are identified from photos as Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis. Sturgis said in 1978 "Yeah we shot the son-of-a-bitch...and no one's going to do anything to us..Howard had the priviledge of the head shot and Kennedy had it coming !!" The Government totally ignored Sturgis's comments. I want you to consider this; do you think Corsican's, LCN, Cubans or Martians had the POWER to black-out all communications with Washington (until they were certain JFK was dead) put a Division of U.S. Infantry in the Air over Washington (in case the Dallas shooting went wrong the Generaals were prepared to seize Power) and kill over 200 eyewitnesses to the shooting ? This topic keeps coming up over-and-over and I'm sick of it. I have over 300 books on the subject and 2 filing cabinets full of transcripts, documents (including over 500 phony CIA-manufactured stories including blaming Montreal LCN, Corsicans, russians , cubans etc.) and the 3 People who I consider to be the Authorities on JFK's murder are Jim Mars, Mark Lane and Fletcher Prouty. David Rockefeller/Prescott Bush and what is now known as TriLateral Commision gave the order and CIA (including George Bush Sr.) carried it out. Likewise they eliminated RFK, JFK Jr. Senator Wellstone and anyone else who's NOT ON THEIR 'TEAM'....read all you can on Fletcher Prouty including his website as he gives you the REAL history of the U.S. and of course the book "The Great Heroin Coup" which details the takeover of Global Drug Trafficking by the U.S. Gov./CIA after they murdered several dozen Corsican traffickers. Coincidently the CIA Colonel who arranged JFK's murder, Col. Edward Lansdale, also was in charge of wiping out the Corsican heroin dealers. This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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it's actually Jim Marrs and his site is www.jimmarrs.com and this site is even more revealing http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmarrsJ.htm This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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Thats amazing stuff...jesus. This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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Ed Lansdale also overthrew the predominant heroin and opium operators in Viet Nahm back in the early 60s or 50s, if memory is correct. Guesss the governemnt could trust a man like him. Any idea of how he spent his 'retirement years'? Paece. This message was posted using the Personal Edition of Toast Forums 1.6. Get a free, skinnable ASP message board for your site at toastforums.com! |
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